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About Scott Ritzheimer
Scott Ritzheimer’s journey is rooted in a passion for unlocking predictable success for B2B organizations. Teaming up with his business partner, Les McKeown—author of the acclaimed “Predictable Success” series – Scott has helped adapt proven models to guide businesses toward sustained growth. While Les is known for collaborating directly with leading brands like T-Mobile, Scott brought a wealth of hands-on experience from Start Church, a company dedicated to supporting visionary leaders in both nonprofit and for-profit enterprises.
At Start Church, Scott worked closely with founders to cultivate not only organizational success but also help entrepreneurs chart a reliable path to achievement. Drawing on these insights, Scott now shares his knowledge with business leaders everywhere, showing them what it takes for both their companies and their journeys to thrive, predictably and consistently.
The Founder’s Journey: 7 Critical Stages Every B2B Leader Must Navigate
The founders journey isn’t just about building a successful business—it’s about transforming yourself as a leader while navigating the complex path from startup to scale. For B2B companies, this transformation becomes even more critical as the stakes are higher, relationships are deeper, and the sales cycles are longer.
Scott Ritzheimer, CEO of Scale Architects and author of “The Founder’s Evolution,” has helped launch nearly 20,000 new businesses and nonprofits. Through his extensive work with founders, he’s identified a predictable pattern that every founder’s journey follows—seven distinct stages that determine whether a business achieves sustainable growth or stagnates in mediocrity.
As Ritzheimer explains, “The biggest challenge I see founders facing, particularly in their own journey, is that they feel like they have to be masters at everything. They have to be masters at leadership. They have to be masters at sales. They have to be masters at marketing.”
This comprehensive guide explores each stage of the founders journey, providing B2B leaders with a roadmap to navigate growth challenges while building predictable revenue systems.
Understanding the Founders Journey: More Than Just Revenue Growth
The traditional approach to scaling B2B companies focuses heavily on tactics, including sales processes, marketing funnels, and operational systems. While these elements are crucial, they often fail to address the fundamental challenge: the founder’s evolution as a leader.
Research shows that 70% of startups fail due to premature scaling, often because founders struggle to delegate and adapt their leadership style as the company grows. This statistic reveals a critical truth about the founders journey—success isn’t just about having the right business model; it’s about developing the right leadership mindset for each stage of growth.
“What I recognized was that we needed a way of knowing what we actually had to be masters at right now,” Ritzheimer notes. “And that’s where this idea and this concept of breaking the founder’s journey into seven distinct stages” becomes essential.
Each stage of the founders journey requires different skills, mindsets, and approaches. Understanding these stages helps founders focus their energy on what matters most at their current phase of growth, rather than trying to master everything simultaneously.
The Sports Analogy That Changes Everything
Ritzheimer uses a powerful sports analogy to illustrate the founders journey: “I was watching a hockey game one night, actually, and the coach was livid… I started imagining, like, what would happen if he had jumped out onto the ice and taken matters into his own hands.”
This visualization led to a breakthrough insight. Just as a hockey coach’s role is clearly defined by the boundaries of the bench, founders need clear boundaries for their role at each stage of growth. “We’ve gotta find a way of understanding with that degree of clarity where our role starts and stops so that we don’t just rely on our skills to tell us what to do.”
For B2B companies, this clarity becomes even more important as the complexity of relationships, longer sales cycles, and higher transaction values demand more sophisticated leadership approaches.
Stage 1: The Dissatisfied Employee – Where Every Founders Journey Begins
Every founder’s journey starts with frustration. Whether you’re currently employed or already running a business, the first stage involves recognizing that something isn’t working the way it should be.
Ritzheimer’s own journey began this way:
“I fell in love with business. Just fell in love with everything, all the opportunity that business could present, and just the whole world started to open up to me through a couple books I was reading, some ideas I had about the company.”
This stage is characterized by:
- Growing awareness of business opportunities
- Frustration with current limitations
- Educational hunger and learning
- Vision for what could be different
The Learning Phase
During this stage of the founders journey, the focus should be on education and observation. Like a trainee watching from the sidelines, you’re learning the game before you get to play it.
For B2B founders, this stage often involves:
- Understanding market dynamics in your industry
- Identifying pain points in current solutions
- Building domain expertise
- Networking with potential customers and partners
The key insight for stage one is that patience and preparation are more valuable than premature action. Many founders skip this crucial learning phase and jump directly into execution, missing fundamental insights that could save them years of struggle later.
Educational Content as a Foundation
This stage of the founders journey is where educational content consumption and creation begin to converge. Smart founders don’t just consume information—they start organizing and sharing their insights, laying the groundwork for future thought leadership.
Consider developing educational email courses or content series during this stage. Not only does this help clarify your thinking, but it also begins building the audience and authority you’ll need in later stages of your founders journey.
Stage 2: The Startup Entrepreneur – Learning to Play the Game
The second stage of the founders journey represents the transition from observer to player. This is where you transition from thinking about starting a business to taking action.
Ritzheimer describes his experience: “September 2008 was our first month in business, relaunching the company. You know what happened September 2008… About 250 clients had paid but not received their work. All the staff had been let go… we owed a hundred and $150,000 to local vendors.”
Starting a business during the 2008 financial crisis with massive inherited debt might seem like the worst possible scenario, yet this experience illustrates a crucial principle of the founders journey: constraints often force the focus that leads to success.
The Star Player Mentality
In stage two, success depends almost entirely on what you can accomplish personally. As Ritzheimer explains, “it’s like being a star player. It really is at that stage about what you can do on your own… If something’s gonna be sold and it’s just you working for the business, you better sell it.”
For B2B companies, this stage involves:
- Direct sales and relationship building
- Hands-on service delivery
- Personal brand development
- Proof of concept validation
Finding Product-Market Fit Through Necessity
The founders journey in stage two isn’t about having unlimited resources to test different approaches. Instead, it’s about finding what works through necessity and constraint.
“There was an intense, like I mean, there was no capital behind it… We just had to figure it out,” Ritzheimer recalls. “We just had to wrestle that again and again every day. What actually makes the phone ring? What actually closes the deal?”
This ruthless focus on revenue generation is essential for B2B founders. Unlike consumer businesses that can rely on viral growth or venture funding to scale before proving profitability, B2B companies typically need to demonstrate clear value and positive unit economics early in their founders journey.
Building Educational Authority
During this stage, successful B2B founders begin establishing their expertise through educational content. Creating email courses, writing detailed blog posts, or developing frameworks not only helps clarify your thinking but also attracts potential customers who value your insights.
The key is to focus on solving specific problems your target market faces, using your unique experience and perspective to provide genuinely helpful guidance.
Stage 3: The Reluctant Manager – When Success Becomes a Burden
The third stage of the founders journey arrives when your success as a star player creates a new problem: you can’t do everything yourself anymore.
Ritzheimer describes the moment this stage hit him: “I remember waking up, it was a Monday morning, and I had to go into the office, and I was so exhausted already. I worked all weekend, and I knew the moment I stepped into that office, I was gonna have nine people asking me questions. And the prevailing thought in my mind was, what’s wrong with these people?”
This frustration signals a critical transition in the founders journey—from individual contributor to team leader. Yet many founders resist this transition, preferring to remain in their comfort zone as the star player.
The Captain on the Field
Stage three is like being a captain on the field—you still have to play the game, but now you’re also responsible for ensuring other players perform their roles effectively. This dual responsibility creates unique challenges:
- Balancing personal productivity with team development
- Learning to delegate without losing quality control
- Managing different personalities and work styles
- Creating systems and processes for consistency
The People Challenge
“The fundamental challenge in stage three is not so much processes, it’s people,” Ritzheimer emphasizes. “Do you have a team that you can achieve… rapid growth at this stage, not scalability… with them, and they’re excited about it, and they’re loving it, and they’re excelling at it?”
For B2B companies, this stage becomes particularly challenging because:
- Relationship-based sales require consistent quality
- Complex solutions need deep product knowledge
- Customer success depends on team coordination
- Brand reputation is built through every interaction
Hiring for Operators, Not Visionaries
One of the most important insights for stage three of the founders journey involves understanding what type of people to hire. “Those people are called operators,” Ritzheimer explains, describing team members who excel at execution rather than vision-setting.
The mistake many founders make is hiring people like themselves—visionaries who want to set direction rather than execute on existing plans. In Stage Three, you need team members who can take clear direction and implement it consistently.
Educational Content for Team Development
This stage of the founders journey is where educational content creation becomes a team development tool. Creating detailed email courses or training materials helps ensure consistent knowledge across your growing team while establishing your company’s expertise in the market.
Consider developing internal educational resources that can also be shared externally, killing two birds with one stone—team training and lead generation.
Stage 4: The Disillusioned Leader – The Dark Night of the Soul
The fourth stage represents one of the most challenging periods in any founder’s journey. Paradoxically, it often occurs during periods of significant business success, creating a confusing disconnect between external achievement and internal satisfaction.
“Unlike video games where it’s up into the right, that’s really the only place that actually exists, in the world of founders, it does not feel like it is up into the right,” Ritzheimer observes. “Your organization will achieve greater success in stage four… but the internal frustration of stage four is at a virtual all time high.”
The Coach on the Sideline
This stage requires transitioning from captain on the field to coach on the sideline—a role that many action-oriented founders find deeply uncomfortable. “When the big play is happening, you just have to stand there and watch. And for action oriented type A, put the ball in my hands type founders, that is agonizing.”
The challenges of stage four include:
- Constant meetings and administrative tasks
- Team conflicts and internal politics
- Feeling disconnected from actual work
- Loss of direct impact on results
- Systems that you no longer fully understand
The Vision Crisis
Many founders experience a crisis of vision during this stage of their founders journey. “How is it that everything is succeeding and I feel like I’m dying inside? How is it that people are writing magazine articles about our success and I hate showing up at the company that I own every day?”
This crisis often stems from pursuing someone else’s definition of success rather than your vision. As Ritzheimer explains, “A lot of us will set a goal of maybe a million dollars a year or $10,000,000 a year… because we read an article about someone who reached that point… There’s some kind of extra reason that why that number, that completely arbitrary number… is somehow better than the number before it.”
The Borrowed Vision Problem
For B2B companies, the vision crisis becomes particularly acute because of the pressure to scale according to industry benchmarks rather than personal values. “Businesses get bigger. They don’t get better inherently. You have to work at that,” Ritzheimer notes.
The solution involves asking fundamental questions:
- What is your vision for the business itself?
- What size organization can achieve that vision best?
- Does your current trajectory align with your actual goals?
Finding Your True North
“What is the purpose of the actual organization? What have you given your life to do so far?” These questions help founders reconnect with their original motivation and determine whether their current path serves their deeper purpose.
For many founders, the answer involves simplification rather than continued scaling. “For many founders who are in this stage four disillusioned leader, the closest exit is behind you. Many times, all you need to do is just simplify and go back a couple of stages, and you’ll fall in love with your business all over again.”
Educational Content as Vision Clarification
Creating educational content during this stage can help clarify your vision and reconnect with your original purpose. Developing email courses or thought leadership content forces you to articulate what you believe and why it matters, often revealing whether your current business direction aligns with your core values.
Stage 5: The Chief Executive – Embracing True Leadership
The fifth stage of the founders journey represents a return to form for many visionary leaders. Interestingly, most founders have called themselves CEO for years before actually stepping into a true chief executive role.
“Most folks who are in this disillusioned leader stage have called themselves CEO for five, ten, fifteen years at this point. It was the first title on their business card. But it’s not until stage five that you actually step into a CEO role,” Ritzheimer explains.
The Return to Visionary Leadership
Stage five offers relief from the operational frustrations of stage four by returning founders to work that aligns with their natural strengths. “When you can make the shift from disillusioned leader to CEO… most of my clients who make that leap… were able to sustain that CEO role for five, ten, fifteen, fifty years for some of them.”
The key difference is focus. Instead of trying to manage everything, stage five CEOs focus on:
- Leading the executive team
- Setting organizational vision and strategy
- Making key decisions and trade-offs
- Representing the company externally
- Ensuring alignment across departments
Building the Executive Team
The transition to stage five requires upgrading your leadership team from managers to executives. “One of the primary differences between stage four and stage five is the people you surround yourself with. It is making that transition from the leaders who got you here to the executives who will allow you to scale.”
Ritzheimer distinguishes between leaders and executives: “Folks who can think critically and strategically about the future. Folks who don’t have the need to put their own finger on every single thing they do, they can delegate effectively. Folks who are interested in building the company, not their own team.”
Achieving True Scalability
This stage of the founders journey is where scalability becomes possible. “This is where we achieve scalability, and it doesn’t happen on your back anymore. It happens on the back of a strong executive team, and your job is as simple as leading that team.”
For B2B companies, this means:
- Predictable sales and marketing systems
- Consistent service delivery processes
- Strong customer success operations
- Clear growth strategies and metrics
Educational Leadership
In stage five, educational content becomes a tool for organizational alignment and external thought leadership. CEO-level educational content—whether through email courses, speaking engagements, or industry publications—helps establish your company’s position in the market while ensuring internal teams understand the company’s direction and values.
Stage 6: The True Owner – Achieving Ultimate Freedom
The sixth stage of the founders journey represents the achievement of what many entrepreneurs originally sought: freedom from day-to-day operations while maintaining ownership benefits.
“Stage six is where we’ve laid all the requisite foundation… All of the things that we’ve talked about so far form the fabric that will hold an organization long after you’re gone. And that’s when we can step out of CEO managing the daily affairs of the organization… to being a true owner.”
The Infrastructure of Independence
Reaching stage six requires building systems and teams that function independently of the founder’s daily involvement. This includes:
- Self-managing executive teams
- Documented processes and procedures
- Strong financial controls and reporting
- Clear decision-making frameworks
- Robust customer success systems
The Freedom Paradox
Interestingly, many founders who reach this stage discover that complete freedom isn’t as fulfilling as they expected. The founders journey teaches that meaning often comes from contribution and impact rather than leisure.
As Ritzheimer notes, “There’s a season of golf or gallivanting or grandkids… but stage seven awaits.” The ultimate stage of the founders journey involves using the freedom gained in stage six for higher purposes.
Preparing for Transition
For B2B companies, stage six preparation often involves:
- Creating comprehensive knowledge management systems
- Developing strong succession planning
- Building customer relationships that transcend individual personalities
- Establishing brand equity independent of the founder
Educational Legacy
Educational content creation becomes particularly important in stage six, as it helps preserve institutional knowledge and maintain thought leadership even as founders step back from daily operations. Well-designed email courses and educational resources can continue to serve customers and maintain a market position without requiring founder involvement.
Stage 7: The Visionary Founder – Building Legacy Beyond Yourself
The final stage of the founders journey involves what Ritzheimer calls “one of my favorite proverbs… a Greek proverb, and it says, society grows great when old men plant trees under whose shade they’ll never sit.”
Stage seven founders use their experience, resources, and wisdom to create value for others, often through:
- Mentoring other entrepreneurs
- Investing in promising startups
- Supporting charitable causes
- Teaching and knowledge sharing
- Building industry infrastructure
The Separation of Visions
Reaching stage seven requires separating your vision from your organization’s vision. “To be able to step out of the CEO state, to step out of that visionary role inside your organization, to step into it in a greater sphere, you have to allow someone else to become the visionary inside the organization.”
This separation allows the organization to continue evolving while freeing the founder to pursue broader impact opportunities.
Examples of Stage Seven Leadership
Bill Gates exemplifies stage seven leadership through the Gates Foundation. After building Microsoft into a technology giant, he transitioned to addressing global health and education challenges, using his business success to tackle problems far beyond the technology industry.
Educational Impact at Scale
Stage seven of the founders journey often involves creating educational resources that impact entire industries or communities. This might include developing comprehensive email course libraries, writing definitive books on industry topics, or creating educational institutions that train future leaders.
Navigating Your Founders Journey: Practical Steps for B2B Success
Understanding the seven stages is only the beginning. Successfully navigating your founders journey requires practical tools and strategies for each transition point.
Identifying Your Current Stage
The most important step is accurately identifying where you currently are in your founders journey. Ritzheimer provides several indicators:
Stage 3 Indicators:
- You have 5-10 employees
- You routinely feel caught between your work and what your team needs
- You find yourself asking “what’s wrong with these people?”
Stage 4 Indicators:
- Constant meetings and administrative tasks
- Feeling disconnected from actual productive work
- Team conflicts requiring your intervention
- Systems you can no longer personally manage
Stage 5 Indicators:
- Clear executive team structure
- Ability to focus on strategy rather than operations
- Sustainable growth without personal involvement in daily tasks
Focus on Stage-Appropriate Skills
Each stage of the founders journey requires mastering 2-5 specific skills rather than trying to be good at everything. “What I wanted to do with the book and what we go to great lengths to do in both the book and our coaching is to help founders recognize what stage they’re in right now so that they know how they should be thinking about the challenges of that stage.”
Common Transition Pitfalls
Several common mistakes can derail progress through the founders journey:
- Premature delegation – Trying to delegate before establishing clear systems and hiring the right people
- Resistance to role changes – Clinging to previous stage behaviors that no longer serve the organization
- Borrowed visions – Pursuing someone else’s definition of success rather than your own
- Skipping stages – Attempting to jump ahead without building proper foundations
The Role of Assessment and Feedback
Regular assessment helps founders stay aware of their current stage and upcoming transitions. “Most of them who’ve given me feedback, have said they’ve saved somewhere between ten and forty hours a week on stuff that they thought that it was their job as founder, and they realized it wasn’t and they were able to get rid of it.”
The Role of Educational Content in Your Founders Journey
Throughout every stage of the founders journey, educational content creation serves multiple purposes:
Stage 1-2: Building Authority and Clarifying Thinking
- Demonstrates expertise to potential customers
- Forces clear articulation of ideas and solutions
- Attracts early adopters and potential team members
- Establishes thought leadership foundation
Stage 3-4: Team Development and Scaling
- Creates consistent training materials for growing teams
- Maintains quality standards across expanding operations
- Continues building market authority during operational challenges
- Provides systems for knowledge transfer
Stage 5-7: Legacy and Impact
- Preserves institutional knowledge
- Maintains thought leadership as founders step back
- Creates lasting value for industry and community
- Enables impact beyond direct business operations
Educational Email Courses as a Strategic Tool
Email courses represent one of the most effective educational content formats for B2B companies throughout the founders journey:
- Low barrier to entry for prospects
- Sequential learning that builds understanding over time
- Automated delivery that scales without founder involvement
- Measurable engagement that identifies qualified prospects
- Relationship building that supports longer B2B sales cycles
For founders in stages 1-3, creating educational email courses helps establish expertise while building an audience. In stages 4-5, these courses can be used for team training and customer education. In stages 6-7, they become part of the lasting legacy and continuing impact.
Content That Serves Multiple Stages
The most effective educational content serves multiple purposes throughout the founders journey:
- Problem identification – Helps prospects recognize challenges they face
- Solution education – Teaches concepts and frameworks for addressing problems
- Implementation guidance – Provides step-by-step instructions for taking action
- Case studies and examples – Demonstrates real-world applications and results
Measuring Success Throughout Your Founders Journey
Success metrics change dramatically throughout the founders journey, and using the wrong metrics can create false impressions of progress or failure.
Stage-Appropriate Metrics
Stages 1-2: Personal productivity, revenue generation, customer acquisition
Stages 3-4: Team productivity, systems effectiveness, scalable growth
Stages 5-6: Organizational health, market position, strategic progress
Stage 7: Industry impact, mentorship outcomes, legacy building
The Complexity Indicator
Ritzheimer suggests that the number of unique roles in your organization provides a better complexity indicator than revenue or headcount: “If you were to sit down and actually write an org chart for all the different positions that are in your organization, the number of unique roles is… what I have found the best data point for the level of complexity.”
This metric helps founders understand when they’re approaching transition points between stages of their founders journey.
Beyond Financial Metrics
While financial success remains important throughout the founders journey, other factors become increasingly significant:
- Personal fulfillment and purpose alignment
- Team development and organizational culture
- Market impact and industry influence
- Sustainable growth and long-term viability
Conclusion: Embracing Your Unique Founders Journey
The founders journey isn’t just about building a successful business—it’s about evolving as a leader and creating lasting impact. Understanding the seven stages helps founders focus their energy on what matters most at each phase of growth rather than trying to master everything simultaneously.
As Scott Ritzheimer concludes, “You don’t have to do everything. All the things that you feel like you should do. There’s actually one thing that you must do, and it is you must understand what stage you’re in right now. Because then and only then can you understand what you must do now.”
For B2B founders, this journey requires particular attention to relationship building, systems development, and long-term thinking. The stakes are higher, the sales cycles are longer, and the relationships are deeper—but the rewards of successfully navigating your founders journey include not only financial success but also the satisfaction of building something that creates lasting value for customers, employees, and society.
Whether you’re in the early stages of your founders journey or navigating the later transitions, remember that each stage offers unique opportunities for growth, impact, and fulfillment. The key is embracing where you are now while preparing for what comes next, always keeping sight of your ultimate vision for the value you want to create in the world.
By understanding and navigating these seven stages effectively, you can build not just a successful business, but a fulfilling founders journey that creates lasting impact for everyone involved. With this framework as your guide, you’ll be better equipped to meet each stage with clarity and confidence.
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- Check out Scale Architects
- Get a copy of The Founder’s Evolution: Conquering the Journey Every Founder Must Face
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